[hworth18]

Corgi may be AWOL, but they are still the standard by which everything is compared, good or bad.

[Elmer]

This thread reminds me of your prophecy, Harry, that HM will kill this hobby. Did HM's mass runs and low costs partly contribute to Corgi's woes? Did HM's success contribute to the demise of GMP, C1, Dragon, and EI?

[Elmer]

Originally Posted by Louie

The gold standard now that's another thing. Although I dearly love my Hm models and salivate at the thought of owning more of these precious models. My "Gold Standard" rating would be with neither Corgi nor Hm so far that can change. My Gold Standard is reserved for C1. I have found not one flaw on any of those planes I own.

Lord knows my C1 models are my favorites, but how can C1 be the gold standard when they haven't released a model in over a year, and it appears their model airplane line now lies in the morgue.

[hworth18]

Originally Posted by Elmer

This thread reminds me of your prophecy, Harry, that HM will kill this hobby. Did HM's mass runs and low costs partly contribute to Corgi's woes? Did HM's success contribute to the demise of GMP, C1, Dragon, and EI?

I don't think HM is to blame for other manufacturers woes, as the individual manufacturers have contributed to their own problems with either too much product, not enough product, or QC issues or a combination. However, I do think that HM is still producing more product than the market can bear right now and this flood, if not curtailed, will mean the end of the hobby as we know it.

This I firmly believe...

[PappyB]

Originally Posted by Elmer

This thread reminds me of your prophecy, Harry, that HM will kill this hobby. Did HM's mass runs and low costs partly contribute to Corgi's woes? Did HM's success contribute to the demise of GMP, C1, Dragon, and EI?

I don't see how when HM isn't making any of the same models in the same scales as GMP/C1/EI... or Dragon for that matter, less I'm forgetting something.

EI/GMP/C1 made/make great models but they are simply too expensive for the average collector I think and they were drying on the vine before HM came along. What would the hobby look like right now if HM didn't exist? Wouldn't be much to talk about........ look at the most active threads around here among the major brands.

EI's P-51s are beautiful, the Texans... well, not for me. C1's Dora is beautiful, but many feel you don't get enough for your $, and I tend to agree -- a stand would help with that... I bought all of mine on rare sales. If I were into WWI, really into WWI, I might feel differently.

I do hope we haven't seen the last of C1 and EI but I'm begining to lose hope on that as we've not heard diddly from them in so long. But I don't think you can blame that on HM over-saturating the market. They've done a lot in a little amount of time but still can't touch Corgi and FM for that matter for range of product offerings and massive production runs of 3500 or more..........

Corgi's woes, IMHO, are it's own fault -- over promising and under delivering, shoddy QA and fiscal missmanagement. Hopefully the new owner will bring some fiscal solvency and more clear of a vision for the pooch's future. I've never really looked at Corgi as the Gold Standard but I'm not sure who else I would choose for that title either.

Rising production costs, inflation in general, and particularly the "non-recession" in the U.S. I think are slowing everyone but HM (and maybe FM) down right now, as it looks like for the moment they have the deepest pockets.

Stepping off my soapbox now.

[STARMAN 352ND]

Originally Posted by PappyB

Corgi's woes, IMHO, are it's own fault -- over promising and under delivering, shoddy QA and fiscal missmanagement. Hopefully the new owner will bring some fiscal solvency and more clear of a vision for the pooch's future.
Rising production costs, inflation in general, and particularly the "non-recession" in the U.S.

I agree with what you just said.
JP

[Ara1]

Originally Posted by PappyB

Stepping off my soapbox now.

(Pushing the soapbox back for Pappy to stand on)

Keep talking, man... makin' sense to me.

[smartd]

They certainly set the standard for subject matter, quantity and sometimes quality. Their heavies will be hard to beat, and some of the more recent obvious,... Swordfish etc. Who else will make early Brit jets?