[PappyB]

First of all, I think that for your opinion to be taken seriously about a given model that you own, you must take the model out of the box to look at it

But seriously....

I think it's important to remember these are models and not museum quality replicas, and constructive criticism is always better than just slamming a model and calling everyone who likes it dolts... sometimes I like a type of model so much, and the scheme, that I can live with more flaws than your average collector. For some, any fault is one fault too many, which I can respect -- but wonder at how much of a "collection" you can have with this view

Different strokes... and all of that... live and let live.

(That said, sometimes Franklin Mint really gets me a bit.... mad... But I still keep buying 'em.)

[Shawn 507]

Originally Posted by 91ken

Do you mean just their aircraft line or the company as a whole?

Just Dragon Wings, they are still strong in the plastic model world!

[PappyB]

Originally Posted by Shawn 507

Just Dragon Wings, they are still strong in the plastic model world!

Actually it DW has shown some signs of a meager pulse lately, no? (New FW, Stuka, and F-16... )

Granted, the new molds are apparently off the board (P-40, P-51B...)

[Old Crow]

Different strokes... and all of that... live and let live.

Couldn't agree more.

I find it interesting that this thead got started as I was considering posting about my recent experience viewing an airsoft guns forum while researching a sniper rifle my son has been pestering me to buy for his birthday. I stumbled across a forum and began reading the product review threads and was amazed at the absolutely brutal criticism levied against members posting product reviews.

The moderators were all but chopping off the heads of reviewers for "inane," "ill-informed," "poorly written," "useless," etc. reviews. In fact, the forum requires members to follow a very rigid review formula (amusingly represented by the acronym ASS- Airsoft Satisfaction System, or some such pretentious name).

Made me feel pretty good about the behavior of all of us on this little diecast oasis

[Shawn 507]

Originally Posted by Old Crow

Couldn't agree more.

I find it interesting that this thead got started as I was considering posting about my recent experience viewing an airsoft guns forum while researching a sniper rifle my son has been pestering me to buy for his birthday. I stumbled across a forum and began reading the product review threads and was amazed at the absolutely brutal criticism levied against members posting product reviews.

The moderators were all but chopping off the heads of reviewers for "inane," "ill-informed," "poorly written," "useless," etc. reviews. In fact, the forum requires members to follow a very rigid review formula (amusingly represented by the acronym ASS- Airsoft Satisfaction System, or some such pretentious name).

Made me feel pretty good about the behavior of all of us on this little diecast oasis

My son has a airsoft Thompson after much searching before x-mas. Now he wants a M-1 Carbine he saw online. I only wish they had them when I was a kid.

[Gort]

Originally Posted by PappyB

First of all, I think that for your opinion to be taken seriously about a given model that you own, you must take the model out of the box to look at it

Guilty as charged, Pappy (you -- you corker ). I hardly ever remove my models from their boxes, so I guess that disqualifies me from making any kind of comment about diecast models.

On the other hand, I get a pretty good look at ‘em through their windowed boxes. I might not see every little seam or fiddly bit or detail, but I do see quite a lot. Enough to know if the model’s good or bad. I mean, how much of a model do you need to examine before you know if it’s recommendable—or execrable?

[hworth18]

I buy a diecast, take it out of the box and look at it.. If I like it, that is all that matters to me...

I own hundreds planes and most of them have an "error or two", I don't expect them to be exact, or "perfect" and I certainly don't whip out the micrometers to take measurements.. What I have learned over the years is that these are not museum quality replicas, but mass produced toys marketed to adults and should be viewed as such.. We should expect a certain level of quality and accuracy, but anything past that is asking too much for the price we pay..

[PappyB]

Originally Posted by Gort

Guilty as charged, Pappy (you -- you corker ). I hardly ever remove my models from their boxes, so I guess that disqualifies me from making any kind of comment about diecast models.

On the other hand, I get a pretty good look at ‘em through their windowed boxes. I might not see every little seam or fiddly bit or detail, but I do see quite a lot. Enough to know if the model’s good or bad. I mean, how much of a model do you need to examine before you know if it’s recommendable—or execrable?

Well, if I may -- in good fun -- Mr. Gort take your view here and apply it to, say, picking Mrs. Right -- I dunno know about you, but I want to see her "out of the packaging" before I make any committments

That said, these are far less serious of a matter and for $30-$50, if you can live with a few sags and creases here and there that shouldn't be present, I can see how you could get a pretty fair opinion from careful examination of a boxed model, or potential Mrs. Right with clothes on. (However, this may explain why you think Gaincorp models are so "fine" . (I like my gaincorps, too... but I do think they are a bit crude by today's standards)

[Gort]

Originally Posted by PappyB

Well, if I may -- in good fun -- Mr. Gort take your view here and apply it to, say, picking Mrs. Right -- I dunno know about you, but I want to see her "out of the packaging" before I make any committments

[STARMAN 352ND]

I have my share of models and i'll find a things wrong with them once in a while ...But when i do if i can fix it i will..If i can't i'll send it back.
I don't think anyone of my friends who collects aircrafts come over and say "Hey that plane is missing a" or " Thats the wrong look for a F-14D"...and the rivet counts...the list can go on and on as we have seen before on the forum.
But it's nice to know a company like Hobby Master does listen to the collectors and being critical to some things on a model can help out a lot for future products that can be corrected down the road.
JP