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Old 12-09-2007, 11:01 PM   # 1 Quick Link (permalink)
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BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

In BAND OF BROTHERS, I have three questions:

1. In Episode 4, "The Replacements", there is a flight of CGI twin engine planes shown flying overhead during Operation Market Garden including one with a dead engine and the other engine is sputtering. Does anyone know what type of plane it is? (Maybe they're B-26 Marauders or A-20 Havocs or a British plane. On my dvd player, I've used freeze frame/enlarge and still can't identify them).

2. Also in Episode 4, there is a Jagdpanther and a Sturmgeshultz-? Are these replicas rebuilt from other vehicles? (The dvd shows the Tiger I is rebuilt from a Soviet T-34).

3. In Episode 3, "Carentan", there is a Panther. What vehicle was this rebuilt from?
 

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Re: BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

In BAND OF BROTHERS, I have three questions:

1. In Episode 4, "The Replacements", there is a flight of CGI twin engine planes shown flying overhead during Operation Market Garden including one with a dead engine and the other engine is sputtering. Does anyone know what type of plane it is? (Maybe they're B-26 Marauders or A-20 Havocs or a British plane. On my dvd player, I've used freeze frame/enlarge and still can't identify them).

2. Also in Episode 4, there is a Jagdpanther and a Sturmgeshultz-? Are these replicas rebuilt from other vehicles? (The dvd shows the Tiger I is rebuilt from a Soviet T-34).

3. In Episode 3, "Carentan", there is a Panther. What vehicle was this rebuilt from?

Sounds like many of the vehicles were replicas. The following is a site that provides a bit of a breakdown on the vehicles.

Site address: Band of Brothers (2001) - mistakes, nitpicks, trivia, locations
 

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IIRC the bombers returning from the mission with one damaged were B-26 Marauders..
 

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GUYS:

Thanks for the info.
There aren't exactly a lot of tank vs. tank movies, so BAND OF BROTHERS is still my favorite in that category (actually, it's my favorite for a all categories).
 

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Re: BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

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In BAND OF BROTHERS, I have three questions:

1. In Episode 4, "The Replacements", there is a flight of CGI twin engine planes shown flying overhead during Operation Market Garden including one with a dead engine and the other engine is sputtering. Does anyone know what type of plane it is? (Maybe they're B-26 Marauders or A-20 Havocs or a British plane. On my dvd player, I've used freeze frame/enlarge and still can't identify them).

2. Also in Episode 4, there is a Jagdpanther and a Sturmgeshultz-? Are these replicas rebuilt from other vehicles? (The dvd shows the Tiger I is rebuilt from a Soviet T-34).

3. In Episode 3, "Carentan", there is a Panther. What vehicle was this rebuilt from?


Hi dragon53; in answer to your Question regarding the German 'Tanks' (& S.P. Guns) I can't answer the specifics, but there are examples of EACH of the one's you've mentioned STILL in running/working order !!!!!!!!!!

I remember the shock, when that episode was screened (with the Jagdpanther)

Even more shocked, when I saw film/photo's, of THE actual Jagdpanther 'smokin' around !!!!!!! lol.

There are several Panthers STILL running around (Gladly !!!!!!!)

I've included a photo' of EACH of the aforementioned A.F.V's (& YES, they ARE the 'Real-Deal' & NOT replicas)

I totally agree that the shot of Panther Ausf.G - 'Erika' is NOT of good-quality, but I was using someone-else's Camera (my Film !) BUT was informed that I WASN'T allowed to use 'flash-photography' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither was the angle/Layout anywhere NEAR 'condusive' to good-photography-angles (C'est La Vie !)

I was with 'Erika' back in May '93 & the German keeper was very helpful otherwise........


Shame you weren't asking about the D-Day C.47 build up drop - which was MEANT to represent RAF Upottery.... as I was actually there on the Film-set, both during & after the making of the C.47 build-up/loading & take-off shots - as I had full accesss to North-Weald at the time (the base where it was ACTUALLY shot !!!!!!)
It's suprising how many 'mock-up's they used, on the ground shots, that looked SO realistic, during the screening.
At the time, no-one I spoke to, knew what the programme would be called........
Only that Spielberg & Hanks were involved !!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

Hey Hornchrurch how many C-47's were involved? Any pics. What was that like?
 

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HORNCHURCH:

Thanks for the info and great photos. On the BAND OF BROTHERS dvd, it's shown that the Tiger I was a modified Soviet T-34 and a British armored personnel carrier was modified to be a Panzer Mk. IV. However, the Jag, Panther, etc. aren't mentioned.

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On the dvd, the director said they only had four flyable C-47s. They filmed all four taking off, taxing from different angles and ran the sequences together to give the impression there were a lot more C-47s. Other C-47s, P-51s, P-47s were CGI, as were the tanks firing and blowing up.
 

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Re: BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

Hey Hornchurch how many C-47's were involved? Any pics. What was that like?

HORNCHURCH:

Thanks for the info and great photos. On the BAND OF BROTHERS dvd, it's shown that the Tiger I was a modified Soviet T-34 and a British armored personnel carrier was modified to be a Panzer Mk. IV. However, the Jag, Panther, etc. aren't mentioned.

MUSTANGDRIVER:

On the dvd, the director said they only had four flyable C-47s. They filmed all four taking off, taxing from different angles and ran the sequences together to give the impression there were a lot more C-47s. Other C-47s, P-51s, P-47s were CGI, as were the tanks firing and blowing up.

Hi M.D & dragon53 !!!!!!! dragon53 pretty much nailed it in his subsequent-post, regarding the 'participants'

Typical that it's one of those days I turned up WITHOUT my (then) 35mm SLR. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually got caught 'off-guard' & it wasn't till I got home that night & asked some of the other lads at our Hornchurch I.P.M.S. club as to what was actually happening & what is was for - Imagine my suprise !!!!!!!!!!!
Of course, that was roughly eighteen-months before the 'final-product' - which we know today as 'Band of Brothers'

To say the film-set was 'awesome' is an understatement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, I/we missed the flying-sequences, as they were shot VERY-Early morning, whilst I was 9-10 miles away (typical)

MANY of the DC.3's/C.47's were ACTUAL painted wooden (cut to shape) boards, that looked just SO-LIFELIKE from several hundred yards away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They were suspended by scaffold-poles, & painted-up SO accurately - those guys deserved a medal, it looked that good !!!!!!!!

On the Sunday we (self, Son & Friend) returned to see them packing-up........ it was pretty-much deserted, so we got to walk amongst the Bivouac's, as they bought Low-Loaders in to 'Freight' back the 'Deuce & a 1/2's' (GMC 2+1/2 tonners) to their various real-life owners (Ironic, considering the 2+1/2's were made to haul-freight !!! )
The security guys came charging-over in a car, as my Son playfully traversed & cranked the (now) often seen A.A. Bofors-gun, only to go into 'relaxed'-mode, as I told them they were on MY part of the Airfield !!!!!!!!! (I showed 'em my pass-card - as I was then part of 39 R.G. on whose 'Turf' they had been filming !!!!!!!!!!)
All in all a good-fun experience, never to be repeated, as I now live 100 miles North !!!!!!!

There's ONE picture I'll try to find, that some guy (one of VERY-few) took whilst at the 'closure' of the Film-set, 'washing'-off the water-based 9th A.F. markings off ONE of the (Flying) DC.3's !!!!!!!
I saw that on here around 12 -15 months ago, so I'll TRY to post a link !!!!!!!!!

dragon53, regarding that 'crappy' T.34/Tiger 'wannabe' - the last time I saw it, it was residing (inside) at the western-end of Duxford's 'Armour'-Hall, next to their IS-2/JS-2
 

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Re: BAND OF BROTHERS' mystery planes?

That is awsome stuff.
 

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HORNCHURCH:

Maybe those wooden C-47s were left over from Gen. Patton's D-Day "decoy army".
 

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