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Old 07-10-2007, 05:12 AM   # 21 Quick Link (permalink)
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I have Dish and all it says is "Kamikaze" 6PM with no info on it.I'll record it on my DVR.
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Curiously, my local listings have "Kamikaze" listed for this Friday. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. History.com has been notoriously inaccurate about upcoming episodes on their website.

My hope is that the guys who intercepted Kamikazes will get a little air time as well.
 

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Not only does my local cable list “Kamikazes” premiering this Friday, it’s slotted to air from 9 to 11...A double episode?!? Strange that the History Channel would have a two hour season premier lined up without mentioning it on their site.

I’ve actually already seen “Jet VS Jet” (Jet Aces) and “Thunderbolts!” on Comcast OnDemand…Impressive stuff. The best part, they were available in HD! Boy was that freakin’ sweet! To catch two episodes in high definition before they air in standard def was like finding, opening, and playing with my presents a week before Christmas.
 

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Found this quote on the Dogfights message board....

Your list is incomplete. For starters, it omits the 2-hour season premier on both Japanese and German (ramming attacks) kamikazes (I don't know if that counts as one or two episodes), as well as a couple of other episodes.

Does not elaborate on what the "other episodes" are about. I guess we will see...
 

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Predictably, history.com has changed the listings for upcoming episodes of "Dogfights!", apparently at the last minute and at great expense. Note the changes:

Addition of "Kamikaze" episode
"Jet Aces" title changed to "Jet vs Jet"
"Delta Winged Warriors" title changed to "Dogfights of the Holy Land"
"Lafayette Escadrille/America's First Ace" title changed to "The First Dogfighters"
"Blood over Baghdad" title changed to "Dogfights of Desert Storm"
"No Room for Error" added
"Nightfighters" added
"Bluenosed Bastards of Bodney" deleted
'"P-51 Mustang" added
"Supersonic" added
"Death of the Luftwaffe" added
"Tuskegee Airmen added"
"Duel of Aces" deleted

I would expect more changes throughout the season, just like they did last year. Below are the latest listings.

KAMIKAZE
Imperial Japan, desperate to prop up their rapidly collapsing empire, sent poorly trained volunteer pilots in suicide attacks against American naval targets. This wasn't the only time pilots used the plane itself as a weapon. German, Russian, and even US ramming tactics will be explored.


JET VS. JET
In the skies over North Korea F86s slug it out with communist MiG-15s. American pilots are in pursuit of a previously unknown glory...the title of jet ace.


THUNDERBOLT
The P-47 Thunderbolt, or Jug as it was known distinguished itself as one of the most lethal dogfighters of World War II- a classic warbird best remembered for its size, ruggedness, and reputation for protecting the pilot.


DOGFIGHTS OF THE HOLY LAND
The innovative, delta-winged MiG-21 arrives in the Middle East. Israel must acquire a fighter to counter the threat and soon settles on the French-built Mirage III. The Mirage and MiG-21 seemed destined for combat with each other...but only one will emerge as the preeminent delta-wing fighter of its day.


GUN KILLS OF VIETNAM
The era of missiles had arrived. Electronic warfare was coming of age. But when technology fails pilots are forced to do combat the old-fashioned way-maneuver in close and blow the enemy out of the sky with guns.


THE FIRST DOGFIGHTERS
Some of the greatest fighter pilots of all time engaged in epic duels over the battered landscape of France and Belgium. Fokker triplanes, Spads, and SE5s go head to head in World War I's most famous dogfights.


NO ROOM FOR ERROR
It's where a pilot can ill afford to make a mistake...but where dogfights are inexorably drawn. Down on the deck-at treetop level-the margin for error is zero.


NIGHT FIGHTERS
From Radar equipped Hellcats in the Pacific to modern stealth technology.


THE BLOODIEST DAY
May 10, 1972. The bloodiest day of air combat during the Vietnam war featured numerous twisting and turning dogfigts. Bob Lodge and Roger Locher pioneer electronic warfare and engage in one of the most exciting air battles of the war.


P-51 MUSTANG
In the European theater of world war II the P-51 Mustang proved itself to be the quintessential dogfighter and went on to become the most famous warbird in history.


DOGFIGHTS OF DESERT STORM
The planes have changed but the jeopardy remains the same. American fighter pilots pit F-15s against Iraqi MiG-25s and advanced MiG-29s as part of Operation Desert Storm.


BATTLE FOR THE FALKLANDS
The 1982 Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands triggered war with the United Kingdom. Remarkable vertical take-off and landing Sea Harriers take on Mirages and A4s in some of the best dogfights of the modern age. The British establish air superiority but the Argentines sink several ships with wave-top level attacks in A4s.


SUPERSONIC
Stories of the development of jet aircraft and their subsequent introduction into combat. Includes stories of test pilots who were the first Germans and Americans to fly these aircraft and the great air battles that were fought through the years at Supersonic speed.


DEATH OF THE LUFTWAFFE
The Luftwaffe's last great offensive was launched on January 1, 1945...called Operation Bodenplatte. Oscar Boesch was a German pilot who took part. Sandy Moats and Alden Rigby were American pilots whose airbase was swarmed by fighters. After this day, the Luftwaffe was shattered as an effective fighting force.


TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
African-American pilots of the 332nd distinguished themselves as one of the most successful fighter groups of the war, despite the bigotry and prejudice they faced from their own countrymen.
 

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Thanks for the updates, bsmith! Wow, what an impressive line-up! My Friday night dates is all set up.
 

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I was not too thrilled with tonight's premier show. Although interesting, I was saddened to think of all the US sailors and airmen that died or were wounded in these attacks.

Guess I am too Ameri-centic in my world view...
 

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Now what happened to the 352nd Blue Nose Bastards of Bodney show ??

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Re: "Dogfights!: Season 2 on the History Channel

Now what happened to the 352nd Blue Nose Bastards of Bodney show ??

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Yet another example of THC bigotry. I think it's personal, JP. Time to start writing letters.

I was looking forward to that one as well but I think the proposed lineup looks great all things considered.
 

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I think they changed it so as not to be impartial to the rest of the other groups who flew the 51' in Europe. I mean no disrespect but if you made an episode about the BBB you would have to do episodes on the 4th and 357th Groups as well as others. I think the History Channel has this epiosode to honor all the fly boys who flew the Stallion of the skies. In my book the 2 most talked about FG's in Europe were the 357th and the BBB and its not fair really because there WERE other groups who did just as well. Like the 4th FG? They hardly are ever mentioned and they were there from the very beginning along with the 56th FG.

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