[hawkonevoodoo]

Originally Posted by Shawn 507

I don't get that. I'd take 3 OD and 3 black even if the only differrence was the noseart. To say "oh there just isn't enough variation" doesn't make sense. If you like the aircraft as a collector / quasi-history buff, it wont matter. I'd like a whole series of Hellcats, but because they only come in three paint variations diecast makers wont bother with different squadrons or variations of marking because its been done once by another?
Boggles my mind.

If there were enough people on the forums buying as many as you then there probably wouldn't be a problem. But when you have to sell, lets say 1000 of each paint scheme and you need to make a minimum of 7 schemes to break even, what do you do with the probable 500 of each variant that is left over? The non serious collector might buy one and maybe 2 if they are lucky but not enough people would buy what I would call a squadron of them.
Or even if they sell every single model from the first 4 releases but by now people are saying they have enough black planes and they don't buy any more, guess who is left holding the bag and the bag ain't full of money?
I think being relatively new to the game Hobby Master is and has to play it a bit safer for now and put the long shot on the back burner for now. If it were my company I know I would be doing this. If the bigger companies want to make one and it doesn't pan out they probably can afford to drop a million or so and still survive but when you are new and trying to prove yourself to the financial people I think there is a tendency to go with the safe bet. This is just my own personal opinion, not that of anyone else.

[Hoverbug]

Originally Posted by STARMAN 352ND

Now that was not the answer i was looking for ......

Well, this is depressing... I'd much rather have 3 or 4 P-61s than 3 or 4 Mirage 2000s. Don't think I'm alone in that.

[hawkonevoodoo]

Originally Posted by STARMAN 352ND

Now that was not the answer i was looking for ......

And this wasn't the answer I wanted to give. Believe me, I pushed long and hard for this and it almost made it, it still could possibly make it but just not now. At first it looked like a "possible" but with more and more analysis and marketing research, development cost and so on and so on, it just became too much of a liability at this time. What more can I say.

[jim]

Originally Posted by hawkonevoodoo

If there were enough people on the forums buying as many as you then there probably wouldn't be a problem. But when you have to sell, lets say 1000 of each paint scheme and you need to make a minimum of 7 schemes to break even, what do you do with the probable 500 of each variant that is left over? The non serious collector might buy one and maybe 2 if they are lucky but not enough people would buy what I would call a squadron of them.
Or even if they sell every single model from the first 4 releases but by now people are saying they have enough black planes and they don't buy any more, guess who is left holding the bag and the bag ain't full of money?
I think being relatively new to the game Hobby Master is and has to play it a bit safer for now and put the long shot on the back burner for now. If it were my company I know I would be doing this. If the bigger companies want to make one and it doesn't pan out they probably can afford to drop a million or so and still survive but when you are new and trying to prove yourself to the financial people I think there is a tendency to go with the safe bet. This is just my own personal opinion, not that of anyone else.

Sound financial sense Hawk, when I was investing the companies money I always asked myself the question, if it was my money would I still do this.

However I am with Shawn in that I think HM could easy move a thousand of these in their first release. But if their break even is 7000 then thats a big risk.
The P61 would make a very impressive diecast model that would certainly stand out on the shelves but 7000 sales, hmm I doubt it but its not impossible.

Maybe later eh.

[TopHat]

Originally Posted by SkyBuffalo

What's the "reporter version"? Did they have journalists from the L.A. Times or the Boston Globe flying around in P-61s?

Are they embebdded...and exactly where are they embedded....?


Edit:

Oh, no! I'm stasting to spel like tank nut.....

[TopHat]

Originally Posted by Hoverbug

Well, this is depressing... I'd much rather have 3 or 4 P-61s than 3 or 4 Mirage 2000s. Don't think I'm alone in that.

Yep.

[jim]

Originally Posted by TopHat

Yep.

Ditto

[mustangdriver]

I think whoever makes a P-61 first is going to make a killing on it. Not making the P-61 for the paint scheme reasons seems to be a big cop out to me. Sorry Hawk. I just think that it doesn't make sense. Why make a Mirage, which is not popular, and doesn't have a ton of schemes. There are more odd ball planes made in diecast than the P-61.

[Ara1]

Yes ^^^^^ the Widow has high-technology, a great "sit", and WWII experience in 2 theaters... Make this baby!

[slammin]

[quote=hawkonevoodoo;115302]"But when you have to sell, lets say 1000 of each paint scheme and you need to make a minimum of 7 schemes to break even, what do you do with the probable 500 of each variant that is left over? The non serious collector might buy one and maybe 2 if they are lucky but not enough people would buy what I would call a squadron of them."

I generally agree with this, but I also think there are ways around this. If companies really need to sell 7000 models at normal prices to make it worth while, they could also sell 3500 or 5000 at slightly inflated prices to get the same profit. I would rather see that done than not have a P-61. It also seems like some people are willing to pay more if they know a model is a limited edition or has a certificate. The P-61 runs could be set up similarly to how HM is doing thier buffalo releases, where some are not limited and others are limited with certificates. That could cut down on the production run and create equal profits.