[Nimrod48]

Originally Posted by ZS-VAN

You make me laugh Nimrod! You're way too intense!! The way I look at is that diecast is never going to be perfect. I really looked forward to the launch of the GA and following the hype pre-ordered the first six. Well, they are nice but I had QC issues with them and even contacted GA but got no response from them.

We need to look at each diecast and determine whether it meets our individual requirements in terms of look, quality, accuracy and desirability. I have 2 Dragon F14s that have been slated on both forums but right now they work for me. Yes, I'd like the CW Tomcat but can't get it right now. Bottom line is, get what works for you. Yes it can be frustrating but maybe we need to compromise (just a little bit) here and there too.

You are right of course ZS VAN my problem is it is the Quality Assurance Inspector coming out in me, spending all day finding fault with peoples work tends to carry over in to my models.

[ZS-VAN]

Originally Posted by Nimrod48

You are right of course ZS VAN my problem is it is the Quality Assurance Inspector coming out in me, spending all day finding fault with peoples work tends to carry over in to my models.

I hear you. For me I get really cheesed off if something is wrong with the models I get. The problem is that I have little choice but to live with the problem because I normally get my stuff from the UK or US so sending it back is a painful option. I find that intially the problem is terrible but with time most things become more tolerable. That said I have had to send one or two items back. In the end after forking out your hard earned lolly I guess we all expect perfection, it just has to come with a tiny dose of reality.

[Epapazian]

One of my biggest beefs about diecast planes concerns their lack of realistic colors. Even when the factory gets the color right, it fails to take into account what modelers call "the scale effect". Since the air is full of tiny particles, these interfere with our view of a plane when seen at a distance of say a third of a mile. As a result the plane seems of a lighter shade to the naked eye than it really is up close. Modelers solve this problem by lightening their paints with white by about 15% for 1:72 scale models and less for larger ones. Diecast manufacturers don't seem to make such adjustments and the result is overly dark colors, especially on the undersides. Look at some of Dragon's FW-190s or BF-109s, for example. Another case in point is Corgi's Galland BF-109E which everyone was praising to the hilt recently. Is that RLM 65 ( light blue/gray ) on the sides and bottom?Looks more like intermediate blue to me.

[mhackl]

Colors are quite possibly the most difficult thing to get right as most if not all pictures of the original aircraft are in black and white. As a manufacturer you find yourself relying heavily on what the plastic modeling community has determined as the standard, but even that can be a grey area.

[SKUNKY]

Originally Posted by mhackl

......but even that can be a grey area.

...pun intended?....

[jim]

Originally Posted by mhackl

Colors are quite possibly the most difficult thing to get right as most if not all pictures of the original aircraft are in black and white. As a manufacturer you find yourself relying heavily on what the plastic modeling community has determined as the standard, but even that can be a grey area.

I dont usually have a problem with the colours, not unless they are really way off. Once a plane left the factory it was pretty much hit and miss anyway as to the colours they were repainted. A lot of the time the QC was non existent for paint. It was often a case of mix up what was available.

I think its the silly mistakes that annoy me, when I see a good piece of diecast spoilt for some small point that could have been easily fixed.
How many times have you found yourself saying ,if only they had done that right it would have been a superb model?

[flyXwire]

Originally Posted by jim

I dont usually have a problem with the colours, not unless they are really way off. Once a plane left the factory it was pretty much hit and miss anyway as to the colours they were repainted. A lot of the time the QC was non existent for paint. It was often a case of mix up what was available.

I think its the silly mistakes that annoy me, when I see a good piece of diecast spoilt for some small point that could have been easily fixed.
How many times have you found yourself saying ,if only they had done that right it would have been a superb model?

Yup, me too!

[FormerViperDriver]

Originally Posted by jim

I dont usually have a problem with the colours, not unless they are really way off. Once a plane left the factory it was pretty much hit and miss anyway as to the colours they were repainted. A lot of the time the QC was non existent for paint. It was often a case of mix up what was available.

I think its the silly mistakes that annoy me, when I see a good piece of diecast spoilt for some small point that could have been easily fixed.
How many times have you found yourself saying ,if only they had done that right it would have been a superb model?

Yes, my view is similar. FM/Armour is a champ at doing that: good model overall, but ONE (sometimes two) major flaws that really detract from it (like the nose-down attitude of their MiG-17s, or B-25. Why? Did they ever look at pictures of these planes on the ground? What was so hard about getting that right? Did it save them any money? But I could cite many other examples).

FVD

[SKUNKY]

Originally Posted by FormerViperDriver

...like the nose-down attitude of their MiG-17s, or B-25. Why? Did they ever look at pictures of these planes on the ground? What was so hard about getting that right? Did it save them any money?

Yeah, exactly...I would like to be able to take my Ruptured Duck off the bottom shelf...

[Ara1]

Originally Posted by FormerViperDriver

the nose-down attitude of their B-25.
FVD

I'm wondering if they nosed down the B-25 as an engineering fix to a tail heavy model. Not sure...

It doesn't bother me that much, I love my B-25, it reminds me of the Revell kit I built in '78...