[Epapazian]

Originally Posted by Horrido!

No confusion whatsoever, the company that makes and gives away the models - check their French, Portugeuse and Spanish websites states that the free models are 1/72, I would tend to disregard people who have no part in it. Besides which they actually are 1/72 scale when you look at them.

Was it confusing when they gave away 1/32 figures with the 1/72 WWII planes?

Diecast Direct have nothing to do with Altaya, they were the distributos for the IXO brand, which may or may not release various Altaya models (aircraft or motor vehicles) in the fullness of time.

You may be confusing the freebie Altaya / De Agostini models with past releases under the Atlas brand name (also a magazine subscription deal in the first place).

Horrido!

First off, I hope you are correct on the Arado being a new mold in 1:72nd scale. And I happen to have the Atlas version, which I believe is 1:97th scale. Also, I've noted the listings and special promotional info on Altaya's European websites. Which is why I am confused. When I contacted Diecast Direct about a month ago, I think that they were still IXO's distributor for the U.S.---though I can't be absolutely sure on this. They claimed to have checked and were told the scale was 1:144.

But the mystery deepens. A few days ago, another member checked the new distributor on this same issue and was told that the mold is 1:97th scale---worrysome since this is the same as the old Atlas mold. For more info check out the thread "IXO Distributor Change", especially post #19.

As I said earlier, I will do cartwheel flips for sheer joy if the Arado materializes in 1:72nd scale---particularly if it's a newer, more detailed mold and I can remove that silly Mistel nonsense without doing too much damage to the model. So I'm rooting for you and others who think we are getting an Arado 234 in 1:72nd. But I'm not so certain that this will be the case.

[STARMAN 352ND]

Oh man i have a big headache coming on about this confusion of scale...
JP

[Horrido!]

(Deep breath - here goes...)

Magazine issues (and associated free gifts) by Altaya / De Agostini have nothing to do with IXO or any of their disributors, past or present, in any country on the planet.

"We" are not getting a diecast 1/72 Arado 234 from any source at the present time, nor is one mooted for the future, unless you have taken a subscription in France, Spain or Portugal to the Altaya (France & Spain) or De Agostini (Portugal) 1/144 bomber collection.

What has "Mistel" to do with it? That would be, for example an explosive filled JU88 with an FW190 attached on top to control it until release.

If you read any of the offers in French, Spanish or Portuguese you will see that the 1/72 V1 comes free with magazines 12 & 13 (the 6th pair issued) and the 1/72 Arado comes with magazines 16 & 17 (the 8th pair issued), so it would be pretty difficult to damage them taking them apart, unless you glued them together yourself first.

Why do you find this so hard to understand - it is written in 3 different languages, do you think they all got it wrong?

I just don't know how to make it any simpler for you........

Horrido!

[Epapazian]

Originally Posted by Horrido!

(Deep breath - here goes...)

Magazine issues (and associated free gifts) by Altaya / De Agostini have nothing to do with IXO or any of their disributors, past or present, in any country on the planet.

"We" are not getting a diecast 1/72 Arado 234 from any source at the present time, nor is one mooted for the future, unless you have taken a subscription in France, Spain or Portugal to the Altaya (France & Spain) or De Agostini (Portugal) 1/144 bomber collection.

What has "Mistel" to do with it? That would be, for example an explosive filled JU88 with an FW190 attached on top to control it until release.

If you read any of the offers in French, Spanish or Portuguese you will see that the 1/72 V1 comes free with magazines 12 & 13 (the 6th pair issued) and the 1/72 Arado comes with magazines 16 & 17 (the 8th pair issued), so it would be pretty difficult to damage them taking them apart, unless you glued them together yourself first.

Why do you find this so hard to understand - it is written in 3 different languages, do you think they all got it wrong?

I just don't know how to make it any simpler for you........

Horrido!

Well, I guess it's official now. We're not getting an Arado 234 in 1:72nd scale from anyone in the near future. Thanks a lot, Horrido.

Since you are so well read on this subject, can you clear up the remaining confusion about the Arado? A lot of online sellers have it listed as a 1:144th scale model and are taking pre-orders, accordingly. Yet, we were recently informed that this is wrong and the actual scale will be 1:97. Supposedly, this last tidbit came from the new distributor. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Finally, you are right. I should have used the V-1 rather than Mistel designation for the Arado 234 freebie pictured on Altaya's French website. Shame on me. Nevertheless, whether my Arado is sitting on top of a V-1 Mistel-fashion, or under it ,as in the picture, I'm going to try to separate one from the other. I'm sorry you had to waste so much valuable time and space on this incidental issue.

Meanwhile I'm off to the library to brush up on my European languages.

[Horrido!]

Hold the phone!

I notice that FM has an IXO version for pre-order (August 2008) - that is a surprise and I hope they are correct, the dimensions he gives are roughly consistant with 1/72 scale:

1:72 Scale		Length		Width
Arado Ar 234 Blitz		6.75"		7.75"

I will be very happy if I am wrong in what I have said about this, it would be a first for Altaya to sell the freebies on as IXO models.


If it is correct, if you apply a little logical thinking to the problem, knowing that the Altaya freebie is 1/72, why would they make a 1/144 version that they haven't made for the 1/144 collection? A more likely explanation is that the other sellers have just assumed it is 1/144 as it is a bomber and not a fighter, but of course it is really not that different in size to say a Beaufighter or a Mosquito (a little longer but with a smaller wingspan) and considerably smaller the the He 219 all of which are part of the 1/72 collection of both brands.

I hope you are the one who is right about about this!

Horrido!

[Epapazian]

Interesting news about that Flying Mule listing on the Arado 234. Martin likes to be very accurate on his model descriptions so this looks like a positive omen. I also checked Diecast Direct's website and they list the plane the same was as the Mule---despite telling me that this was a mistake weeks ago. As far as being right or wrong I'd settle for a friendly tie on this one.

[Cruver Collecter]

If the measurements given on the Flying Mule site are correct, it pretty much has to be 1/72nd scale.

[STARMAN 352ND]

Originally Posted by Horrido!

(Deep breath - here goes...)Magazine issues (and associated free gifts) by Altaya / De Agostini have nothing to do with IXO or any of their disributors, past or present, in any country on the planet.
"We" are not getting a diecast 1/72 Arado 234 from any source at the present time, nor is one mooted for the future.
Why do you find this so hard to understand - it is written in 3 different languages, do you think they all got it wrong?
I just don't know how to make it any simpler for you........
Horrido!

Originally Posted by Horrido!

Hold the phone!
I notice that FM has an IXO version for pre-order (August 2008) - that is a surprise and I hope they are correct, the dimensions he gives are roughly consistant with 1/72 scale:
Horrido!

Ok....So we are safe now ..this will be a 1:72..?
The scale keeps going back and fourth drives one nuts..
JP

[Horrido!]

Probably the best pictures so far of the 1/72 Altaya freebies from the French site:

[mikeb1958]

Originally Posted by Cruver Collecter

If the measurements given on the Flying Mule site are correct, it pretty much has to be 1/72nd scale.

Ok, here is the deal. I have a 1/72 scale Ar-234 and it is the SAME measurements as the one given on the FM site. So they would be right on. A Ar-234 in 1/44 scale would be about the same size a P-47 in the same scale. So...bring it on baby!