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Old 07-19-2008, 01:39 AM   # 1 Quick Link (permalink)
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Hi William,

Here's a list of jets that HM should NOT make:
Yak 38 Forger
AV-8A Harrier
SAAB Draken
Alpha Jet
BAE Hawk
Super Etendard
Buccaneer
F-102 Delta Dagger
Su-25 Frogfoot
P-80
T-37
Strikemaster
Mirage III
F-111F
Su-24
SU-7
T-33
BAE Lightning
Mirage F-1
Tornado IDS
Fantan A
Fiat G.91
F-117
Mig 15 - 19

Well, as Century & Witty have already done justice to some of the US Navy & Russian jets, I guess that only leaves the .......................
 

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Old 07-19-2008, 02:40 AM   # 2 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Let's try some reverse psychology here

Here's a list of jets that HM should NOT make:

AV-8A Harrier
BAE Hawk
Buccaneer
BAE Lightning

They certainly shouldn't do these as Corgi already put them out. I can't imagine Hobby Master would be able to sell enough to cover the cost of the tooling.
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Re: Let's try some reverse psychology here

AV-8A Harrier
BAE Hawk
BAE Lightning
Tornado IDS
Buccaneer

^ Corgi already does a decent job with the above; not perfect, but decent. William has already said that Hobby Master will stick to items that no other company has covered yet.

Mig 15 - 19

^ William has already indicated that at the very least, a MiG 15 in 1:72 was in the works. As for the rest, I would imagine that there's a healthy market for the MiG-17 and MiG-19 considering the sheer number of countries that have fielded them - including China's PLAAF. So what's wrong with the early MiGs then?

SAAB Draken
Su-25 Frogfoot
P-80/T-33
Mirage III

^ I would personally like to see the above released by one of the major companies - especially the Saab series of jet fighters (Tunnan, Lansen, Draken, Viggen, Gripen). Why do you hope that they are not released by Hobby Master? I can see them releasing a P-80/T-33 on account of their popularity and the number of countries that fielded them (the T-33 at least), and the Su-25 would be very popular indeed in my humble opinion. The Mirage III would be even more popular considering the huge number of countries that have fielded them - I'd love to see it in 1:72 and would buy whatever IDF/AF schemes that are released. I may be dreaming about anything Saab-ish, but we all have our dreams, right?

Yak 38 Forger
Alpha Jet
Super Etendard
F-102 Delta Dagger
T-37
Strikemaster
F-111F
Su-24
SU-7
Mirage F-1
Fantan A
Fiat G.91
F-117

^ I don't really care about any of the above, although I do know that there are those out there that hold these planes in high regard. I don't think they represent what would sell very well and may very well be "shelf queens" if they are ever released by any of the big companies, Hobby Master included. That having been said, what is your reason for including all of them on this list?
 

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Hi William,

Here's a list of jets that HM should NOT make:
Yak 38 Forger
AV-8A Harrier
SAAB Draken
Alpha Jet
BAE Hawk
Super Etendard
Buccaneer
F-102 Delta Dagger
Su-25 Frogfoot
P-80
T-37
Strikemaster
Mirage III
F-111F
Su-24
SU-7
T-33
BAE Lightning
Mirage F-1
Tornado IDS
Fantan A
Fiat G.91
F-117
Mig 15 - 19

Well, as Century & Witty have already done justice to some of the US Navy & Russian jets, I guess that only leaves the ...F-106 Delta Dart in Ang Service....................

 

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Last edited by forcerecon85 : 07-21-2008 at 08:35 PM. Reason: typo: changed A-36 to A-37
Hey Norm, Hobby Master likes to stick to aircraft that haven't been done before and it's carved up a decent niche in our hobby. William is always willing to hear what we want and as long as its not too huge or impossible to do and apeople want the same item, it will be done in the future. A good example of this is the F-105 which has been confirmed in the future but no date set. For the most part anything on your list that hasn't been done in die-cast is fair game but the items on that list that are really in demand will be most likely done first. Just sit back and let Hobby Master do all the work and save up money for all those pre-orders

PS: From your list I'd like to see an T-37, but the attack variant. The A-37 Dragonfly.
 

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Yeah most of your list could/should be done in the future.
Of the models that are now available they could all use upgrading. I'm thinking of all the Corgi Brit models.
 



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Yeah most of your list could/should be done in the future.
Of the models that are now available they could all use upgrading. I'm thinking of all the Corgi Brit models.

Yup, I certainly hope to see HM produce versions of the F-111, Tornado and Harrier as well as French and Swedish jets. I don't mind it so much that Corgi has produced several versions of the Tornado. I think HM can go one better.

With HM's standard, I'm sure they can come up with better moulds and paint schemes for the above jets. For me, I would also like to see HM produce them with the full works of munitions/ordnance....like those from the CW!
 

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Thanks for responding here everyone. The list I posted actually represents stuff I would actually think twice and really hard about before actually buying. It's not that I don't like them, but even in 1/72 scale, I would run out of display space quite fast. For example, having already bought HM's Mirage 2000, I'm not going to buy the Kfir or Mirage III as all three planes look very similar. My only option would be too store some in boxes and rotate the display. As it is, I've already removed most of my 1/48 stuff and have given some of them to friends and colleagues to make room for some of the 1/72 diecast stuff I've bought.

BTW, thanks for the advice on which F-14 i should buy guys, the FoV Black Aces should be arriving soon. Now having bought the FoV Tomcat, does it mean that I won't buy one from HM if it gets produced? The answer is probably 'yes'! as I have found HM's stuff to be priced reasonable (as compared to some other companies) while giving us products that are quite accurate too. However, I won't be displaying both F-14's at the same time (unless I move one to my office). I'm not a rivet counter, but then again, the droopy tail on the 'Playtime' A-10 is something that irritates me every time I look at it.

The only kits so far that I would buy multiples of without a second thought is something I'm really hoping HM will get along to making soon; PLEASE WILLIAM, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE ME A PROPER LEGACY F-18 C/D AND F-16 C/D! I already have several of the Witty versions, but I don't care, I'll still buy HM's as it would give me a gear-up option. Besides, one can never have enough of these two beauties; come visit my house and you'll see that I have more boxes of Hasegawa and Tamiya Vipers than my wife has shoes.

Oh well, sorry for the little rant guys, I hope it clarifies my way of thinking; But William, I really do WANT a legacy Hornet and proper late model F-16. Just think, if you were willing to produce the "peanut' A-10 (which I bought too), just think of all the fun you'll have making those beautiful aggressor schemes out there (AFTER the grey-colored operational one gets released, of course).
 

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Exclamation You are kidding, aren't you...?!

All of these (at least) SHOULD be made :

Mirage F1
Mirage III
Super Etendard
Draken
Mig 17
Mig 19
Su 24
Su 25
T-33
F-102
F-111
 

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Last edited by William : 07-22-2008 at 11:37 AM.
Thanks for responding here everyone. The list I posted actually represents stuff I would actually think twice and really hard about before actually buying. It's not that I don't like them, but even in 1/72 scale, I would run out of display space quite fast. For example, having already bought HM's Mirage 2000, I'm not going to buy the Kfir or Mirage III as all three planes look very similar. My only option would be too store some in boxes and rotate the display. As it is, I've already removed most of my 1/48 stuff and have given some of them to friends and colleagues to make room for some of the 1/72 diecast stuff I've bought.

BTW, thanks for the advice on which F-14 i should buy guys, the FoV Black Aces should be arriving soon. Now having bought the FoV Tomcat, does it mean that I won't buy one from HM if it gets produced? The answer is probably 'yes'! as I have found HM's stuff to be priced reasonable (as compared to some other companies) while giving us products that are quite accurate too. However, I won't be displaying both F-14's at the same time (unless I move one to my office). I'm not a rivet counter, but then again, the droopy tail on the 'Playtime' A-10 is something that irritates me every time I look at it.

The only kits so far that I would buy multiples of without a second thought is something I'm really hoping HM will get along to making soon; PLEASE WILLIAM, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE ME A PROPER LEGACY F-18 C/D AND F-16 C/D! I already have several of the Witty versions, but I don't care, I'll still buy HM's as it would give me a gear-up option. Besides, one can never have enough of these two beauties; come visit my house and you'll see that I have more boxes of Hasegawa and Tamiya Vipers than my wife has shoes.

Oh well, sorry for the little rant guys, I hope it clarifies my way of thinking; But William, I really do WANT a legacy Hornet and proper late model F-16. Just think, if you were willing to produce the "peanut' A-10 (which I bought too), just think of all the fun you'll have making those beautiful aggressor schemes out there (AFTER the grey-colored operational one gets released, of course).

Hi,

I understand your feelings.

The F/A-18C is such an important model aircraft (replacing F-4 as a fighter role and the A-7 as the attacker role as I remember) that the market deserves a good done.

I would like to have it done in 1 to 2 years time if nothing nice turn up by the time.

William
 

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