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Old 08-17-2008, 04:19 AM   # 11 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

I got kind of curious as to what it might run to make a 1/48th scale Swordfish kit. This what I figure would be needed to do a decent display model.

Kit $75.60 (Using stock decals)
Photo etch set $22.46
Paints and clear coat $25.80
Miscellaneous items $15.50

Total $139.36

Pretty much a price project even before any of the parts get put together. Did not include cost for puty filler or sandpaper which would be needed on this project too. Shoot it might just be realistic to think that someone like Hobby Master could put one out for less than would go into the cost of building one yourself.

Interesting Tally, but 90 % buying that kit would WANT to do it justice & buy (Quality) Aftermarket-Decals....

That Hikes the price up further still, making it sound MORE reasonable in 'H.M's favour.........
 

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Old 08-17-2008, 04:26 AM   # 12 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

Interesting Tally, but 90 % buying that kit would WANT to do it justice & buy (Quality) Aftermarket-Decals....

That Hikes the price up further still, making it sound MORE reasonable in 'H.M's favour.........

Have to agree with you on this point, so probably looking at an additional $10.00 (Maybe as high as $16.00) on a build.
 

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Interesting Tally, but 90 % buying that kit would WANT to do it justice & buy (Quality) Aftermarket-Decals....

That Hikes the price up further still, making it sound MORE reasonable in 'H.M's favour.........

Have to agree with you on this point, so probably looking at an additional $10.00 (Maybe as high as $16.00) on a build.

Exactly Right !

Can't see Tamiya lowering their (overall) prices though, can you ????????


It's the expense that made me hang-back from buying another of their P.47's (Razorback)'s & the reason why I

haven't (yet) purchased an M.26 Pershing, or their 'lusty' (summer-1940) "Char-B"


I MUST get that......... (in time......


Back to (Aftermarket) decals; I'm ASTOUNDED how over TEN-Years they've (more than) doubled in price !

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:28 AM   # 14 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

As someone who built two Tamiya Swordfishes in my opinion these are among the best scale kits ever produced, even if you are starting ground up with plastic modelling you should be able to finish that kit with less than 100 dollars. Regarding HM doing a Swordfish, as much as I would like that to happen but with current level of detailing in their 1/48 scale line it would be a poor representation of a real plane. Open cockpit, engine components etc.. many parts would have to be photo-etched and for now HM does not seem to incline, for instance to detailed cockpits which are a must for any Swordfish model especially in 1/48 scale. None the less if HM would make them I would buy them and would not mind paying 80+ dollars for a detailed representation...the same goes for Fieseler Storch.
 

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Old 08-17-2008, 02:36 PM   # 15 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

Now that Fieseler Storch WILL work for me in 1:48 and HM could do a superb job! The above discussion of plastic kits vs. die-cast conjures up some wonderful visions of die-cast A/C production by Tamiya and Hasegawa et.al . Talk about "ceiling unlimited" regards all our dream-schemes being made reality!
 

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........ attack on the Scharnhorst and Guinisneau when they crossed the channel to go back from France to Germany ( all five Swordfish lost, no survivors. They went in unescorted agains an air cover of 40+ Fw-190A. They never stood a chance... ), etc

There were in fact six Swordfish in the attack and five survivors one of whom was unwounded. One of the survivors, Brian Rose was killed a year later. Amazingly the other four, Don Bunce, Pat Kingsmill, Edgar Lee and 'Mac' Samples are still alive.

Don Bunce was awarded the CGM and the other four the DSO. Esmonde was awarded the VC and all others were Mentioned in Despatches, the only award other than the VC that can be awarded posthumously.

An account of the attack can be seen here.

I would welcome a model of Esmonde's aircraft in any scale.
 

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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

That Hikes the price up further still, making it sound MORE reasonable in 'H.M's favour.........

But surely there must be the pleasure obtained in the making of a model this detailed... from my modelling days, I feel that i could do a far better job at 1/48th or 1/32 than the diecast bods could do ... but that Corgi have done a far better job than I could do at 1/72....

As to whether there should be a 1/32/48th Swordfish... only the manufacturers can decide that.... I feel that a 1/32 Hawk in the right colours (red), properly marketed would sell as would other icons of transport be they Minor 1000's or Locomotive 4472 (1472) but I dont suppose we will see that....
 

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:02 AM   # 18 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

Often the argument is made that a diecast manufacturer cannot do a certain aircraft in a certain scale because there is no existing plastic kit to work from. As has been discussed, there is the excellent Tamiya 1/48 Swordfish to build a 1/48 scale diecast Swordfish from. But the news is even better-- Trumpeter has announced that it will soon issue a 1/32 scale Swordfish kit. So we no longer have the excuse that a 1/32 scale Swordfish can't be done because there is no plastic kit to work from. And I will say it again-- a 1/32 scale Swordfish would be truly spectacular!
 

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:44 AM   # 19 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

Often the argument is made that a diecast manufacturer cannot do a certain aircraft in a certain scale because there is no existing plastic kit to work from. As has been discussed, there is the excellent Tamiya 1/48 Swordfish to build a 1/48 scale diecast Swordfish from. But the news is even better-- Trumpeter has announced that it will soon issue a 1/32 scale Swordfish kit. So we no longer have the excuse that a 1/32 scale Swordfish can't be done because there is no plastic kit to work from. And I will say it again-- a 1/32 scale Swordfish would be truly spectacular!

If a 1/32 Dauntless costs $150 how much would be 1/32 Swordfish have to cost given the rigging requirements?
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Re: Fairey Swordfish?

..add at least a hundred to that ... $250... I'll settle for another Corgi 1/72 one...... like er.. the US silver release......!!!
 

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