[b-huj]

Hawk, you're the only one that I know with "access".
FYI, the photos you uploaded on your website are showing the wrong Argentine flag colors.
In the middle of it there should be a yellow sun, not some five blue dots. I think these were a mistake by printing out low-res jpeg images and trying to reconstruct what the little details are supposed to be. I know it is late for modifications, but FYI (and of everyone interested) there are some useful links like these (besides a.net)

http://www.aeromilitaria.com.ar/hst/...1750/index.htm
http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/conflicto/skyhawkb.html
(the second link with a picture small enough to cause some confusion as to what exactly goes in the middle white stripe of the flag on the tailfin).

[flyXwire]

Good catch, b-huj...thanks!

[b-huj]

being familiar with that flag, I think I can tell when there is somthing wrong with it.
I am wondering what what went wrong at HM for this silly mistake on this very attractive release.
I may still buy it and then try to correct the mistake myself, although I would beg the powers that be to change that on the production model.

[1250ships]

This is one I have on my "must buy" list. Would be a shame if it is released with such a silly mistake.

[hawkonevoodoo]

Originally Posted by b-huj

Hawk, you're the only one that I know with "access".
FYI, the photos you uploaded on your website are showing the wrong Argentine flag colors.
In the middle of it there should be a yellow sun, not some five blue dots. I think these were a mistake by printing out low-res jpeg images and trying to reconstruct what the little details are supposed to be. I know it is late for modifications, but FYI (and of everyone interested) there are some useful links like these (besides a.net)

http://www.aeromilitaria.com.ar/hst/...1750/index.htm
http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/conflicto/skyhawkb.html
(the second link with a picture small enough to cause some confusion as to what exactly goes in the middle white stripe of the flag on the tailfin).

Great eyes. It is so small that I never gave it that close of a look but I just got the old magnifying glass and you are correct. You probably are correct on the reason for the error as well. I have notified Hobby Master with the recommendation to correct future releases because like you pointed out it is too late to correct this release that ships on the 20th of June.
I hope people don't stop getting this great model because of such a tiny error. I figure unless people are very familiar with the Argentine flag like you are and people have to use a magnifying glass to see the error then I figure 99% of us wouldn't even notice. Like I said I didn't catch it.
Thanks.

[b-huj]

Hawk, thanks for the feedback, and I still want to buy this model. Actually, I've been out there in the rain yesterday looking for it but all shops in the area told me they had no idea where this particular release would be arriving to their shelves, can you help out with some hint as of when are they supposed to ship within hong kong?

I am not sure I can agree with your comments regarding the insignificance of the detail. A 1/72 model with the wrong flag is not something you don't notice if you know your models. I said it hasn't put me out completely and I am willing to give it a chance, unfortunately, I have the feeling there is a dismissive and even protective atmosphere when someone makes a critique, even when this was made with the best intentions. I remember me having a good laugh at discovering (after taking extreme close ups of my witty's) funny mispellings and meaningless placards (DANGIE instead of DANGER), but then receiving some comments similar like yours (that they are too to be noticed small, etc.). I was not saying these crazy placards distracted from the model!

Anyway, it is quite a big flag there on the Skyhawk: there are 1/200 models with more tiny details and they didn't just print crosses, dots and lines because it was too "small" (in that case I would have suggested they didn't make the model at all). Since HM is going to enter the 1/200 arena, it would probably be good to drop them a line telling them not to follow that path.

[pulqui]

There is plenty of info as far as what the Argentine flag looks like. Definitely not three dots instead of a yellow sun. A simple Google search will turn up this link:

http://www.argentina.gov.ar/argentin...ra_col_sec.gif

[Nockers]

Lets take a look

The national flag of Argentina dates from 1812. It is a triband, composed of three equally wide horizontal bands coloured light blue, white and light blue. In 1818, a yellow Sun of May was added to the center.
The full flag featuring the sun is called the 'Official Ceremony Flag' (Spanish: Bandera Oficial de Ceremonia). The flag without the sun is considered the 'Ornamental Flag' (Spanish: Bandera de Ornato - not official - ). While both versions are equally considered the national flag, the ornamental version must always be hoisted below the Official Ceremony Flag. In vexillological terms, the Official Ceremony Flag is the civil, state and war flag and ensign, while the Ornamental Flag is an alternate civil flag and ensign.

[hawkonevoodoo]

Originally Posted by b-huj

Hawk, thanks for the feedback, and I still want to buy this model. Actually, I've been out there in the rain yesterday looking for it but all shops in the area told me they had no idea where this particular release would be arriving to their shelves, can you help out with some hint as of when are they supposed to ship within hong kong?

I am not sure I can agree with your comments regarding the insignificance of the detail. A 1/72 model with the wrong flag is not something you don't notice if you know your models. I said it hasn't put me out completely and I am willing to give it a chance, unfortunately, I have the feeling there is a dismissive and even protective atmosphere when someone makes a critique, even when this was made with the best intentions. I remember me having a good laugh at discovering (after taking extreme close ups of my witty's) funny mispellings and meaningless placards (DANGIE instead of DANGER), but then receiving some comments similar like yours (that they are too to be noticed small, etc.). I was not saying these crazy placards distracted from the model!

Anyway, it is quite a big flag there on the Skyhawk: there are 1/200 models with more tiny details and they didn't just print crosses, dots and lines because it was too "small" (in that case I would have suggested they didn't make the model at all). Since HM is going to enter the 1/200 arena, it would probably be good to drop them a line telling them not to follow that path.

If I came across as dismissive and protective it is because I think this is an excellent model except for this one thing and I really would hate to see people shy away from it because of this error. In my opinion and this is just my own personal opinion, yes the flag or lack of flag is too bad but in the greater scheme of things it is a minute problem. If they had painted the model the wrong colors or put the wings on backwards or left the canopy off then I would say "Houston we have a problem". The model sat there for a long time with who knows how many people looked at it and never saw the error until someone finally did see it and mentioned it. If you hadn't spotted this I bet it would have been months before someone else did. Even if some other company had done this I would feel the very same way.

This has been brought to the attention of Hobby Master and I'm quite sure this will be part of the final inspections.

To answer your question about availability in Hong Kong. You can add 1 month to any release date before it shows up there. The last release actually shipped June 25 so somewhere around July 25 they should be in the stores in Hong Kong.

[Old Crow]

In vexillological terms...

Wow, Nockers, I'm impressed. I learned something. I had no idea there was such a thing as the scholarly study of flags or that there was a term to describe the study.