[MoMo]

Dear Hoverbug,

Good point about the Pearl Harbour fiasco. I watched it in our local movie house ( yes, we still have one which has not been complexitised ) and felt myself losing the will to live.

Pearl anachronisms are legendary and the lack of care demonstrated what we might generously term a half-arsed approach to the subject.

It was that narrative which got me though. Straight from the Soap School of Movie-Writing, Hollyrude. Water under the bridge now.....

I feel that you are being slightly hard on Midway. I agree that it is sheer hell to watch the wrong planes, the side-hull lifts and the wrong carriers trying their damndest to fill in for the long gone Enterprise, but they did, at least, try to get the history right ( even if they did bog the film down with a superfluous love story ).

Very fair comment, Hoverbug.

cheers,

MoMo

[Captain Eddie]

Originally Posted by Hoverbug

Worst is either Midway with the F9F or Pearl Harbor with a modern carrier battlegroup - with their CGI budget, how difficult could this have been?

I guess, in some ways, I'n not too hard to please. I thought "Midway" was pretty good, as far as telling the story, even tho some of the planes were incorrect.

"The Blue Max" is, however, one of my favorites. Even tho it had some more modern aircraft sprinkled in, the Phaltz D III was great, as were the Fokker D VII's and Dr I's. Had great aerial shots and dogfighting also!

Amongst non aviation themed, "Saving Private Ryan" was great. I'm not one to watch ground warfare movies as much, but that movie really moved me, really brought home the sacrafices those men made for the U,S.A and the free world!

[Tri-motor]

Originally Posted by tankguy

Long interview with Jackson about the Dambusters movie, including details on building life-sized Lancasters for the movie...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30076

Good article. The "re-do" is in good hands with Peter Jackson.

[SKUNKY]

I gotta agree with MoMO's assessment on Flying Tigers....The Duke shoulda stuck to being a cowboy...How could anyone sit through that flick with a straight face?

Best war movie -Twelve O'Clock High

[MoMo]

Dear Skunky,

I love 12 O'Clock High, too.

I think that the time is ripe for a remake of " The Blue Max". I would make it using as little CGI as possible and I would also try to make the ground staffing scenes a little more realisting by not building a fake French destoyed town in the middle of a peat bog like they done in the original.
This time Stahkel would be a little less niaive and there would be more real rivalry between the characters culminating in a dogfight between Stahkel and the Aristocratic bloke! None of this flying under bridges to prove your manhood stuff! This is the age of revolutions and if we are going to have a class war within the Jasta, let's have a good old fight between the two best pilots. ( this never happens in real life).

It would work as long as the characters have some real motivation to kill one another!

Baron von Richtshoffen is too much of a nice guy in the picture. Let's make him the stone killer that he was. This would give Stahkel some real motivation to become more cold-blooded. In the original movie he forgets his trench warfare experiences too easily at convenient points throughout the film. When Stahkel rescues the Baron, it emerges that he worships BvR. Let him be more of a role-model for Stahkel and let the poison of rivalry ooze out.

WW1 was the worst nightmare of the 20th century for the people who started war with all the baggage of patriotism; " Dulce et Decorum est "....
It ended as industrialised slaughter. All this would be incorporated into the new film. Tony Folker would be an added character who would drive the message home that to stay ahead, you need to make day-by-day improvements to the aircraft. The story of how Garros used wedges to deflect bullets from his airscrew and how Tony developed a synchronised machine-gun to fire through the airscrew would add to the drama.

Wow! I'm ready for The Pitch now. Which way Hollywood?

My Sopworth is overheating.....must fly!

MoMo

[Hornchurch]

Originally Posted by MoMo

I think that the only option for a name for Gibson's dog is Digger!

MoMo

Well if everyone is after historical accuracy, then that suggestion will work just fine....... provided.......,

that whoever plays Gibson (or anyone using the Code-word).... has a stonking Cold virus (or) dose of the 'Flu' on the day.......

(Yes, I've donned my flak suit & tin helmet ).

[Tri-motor]

Originally Posted by MoMo

Dear Skunky,

I love 12 O'Clock High, too.

I think that the time is ripe for a remake of " The Blue Max". I would make it using as little CGI as possible and I would also try to make the ground staffing scenes a little more realisting by not building a fake French destoyed town in the middle of a peat bog like they done in the original.
This time Stahkel would be a little less niaive and there would be more real rivalry between the characters culminating in a dogfight between Stahkel and the Aristocratic bloke! None of this flying under bridges to prove your manhood stuff! This is the age of revolutions and if we are going to have a class war within the Jasta, let's have a good old fight between the two best pilots. ( this never happens in real life).

It would work as long as the characters have some real motivation to kill one another!

Baron von Richtshoffen is too much of a nice guy in the picture. Let's make him the stone killer that he was. This would give Stahkel some real motivation to become more cold-blooded. In the original movie he forgets his trench warfare experiences too easily at convenient points throughout the film. When Stahkel rescues the Baron, it emerges that he worships BvR. Let him be more of a role-model for Stahkel and let the poison of rivalry ooze out.

WW1 was the worst nightmare of the 20th century for the people who started war with all the baggage of patriotism; " Dulce et Decorum est "....
It ended as industrialised slaughter. All this would be incorporated into the new film. Tony Folker would be an added character who would drive the message home that to stay ahead, you need to make day-by-day improvements to the aircraft. The story of how Garros used wedges to deflect bullets from his airscrew and how Tony developed a synchronised machine-gun to fire through the airscrew would add to the drama.

Wow! I'm ready for The Pitch now. Which way Hollywood?

My Sopworth is overheating.....must fly!

MoMo

Who are you casting for the Ursulla Andress role?

[AllenTC2]

Originally Posted by MoMo

I think that the time is ripe for a remake of " The Blue Max". I would make it using as little CGI as possible and I would also try to make the ground staffing scenes a little more realisting by not building a fake French destoyed town in the middle of a peat bog like they done in the original.
This time Stahkel would be a little less niaive and there would be more real rivalry between the characters culminating in a dogfight between Stahkel and the Aristocratic bloke! None of this flying under bridges to prove your manhood stuff! This is the age of revolutions and if we are going to have a class war within the Jasta, let's have a good old fight between the two best pilots. ( this never happens in real life).

It would work as long as the characters have some real motivation to kill one another!

Baron von Richtshoffen is too much of a nice guy in the picture. Let's make him the stone killer that he was. This would give Stahkel some real motivation to become more cold-blooded. In the original movie he forgets his trench warfare experiences too easily at convenient points throughout the film. When Stahkel rescues the Baron, it emerges that he worships BvR. Let him be more of a role-model for Stahkel and let the poison of rivalry ooze out.

WW1 was the worst nightmare of the 20th century for the people who started war with all the baggage of patriotism; " Dulce et Decorum est "....
It ended as industrialised slaughter. All this would be incorporated into the new film. Tony Folker would be an added character who would drive the message home that to stay ahead, you need to make day-by-day improvements to the aircraft. The story of how Garros used wedges to deflect bullets from his airscrew and how Tony developed a synchronised machine-gun to fire through the airscrew would add to the drama.

Wow! I'm ready for The Pitch now. Which way Hollywood?

My Sopworth is overheating.....must fly!

MoMo

That isn't a remake, that is a "re-imaging" or "re-imagining"....I forget the term. Just like the new Battlestar Galactica.

What is the issue with CGI? I'd rather have good CG than poor VISMODs.

[MoMo]

Dear Tri Motor,

Who wants a woman in an all action remake?

I guess any actress who can raise an aristocratic nose could do! Name your candidate!

Ursulla Andress's role in the original movie was not too demanding. In fact the character was shallow and single-minded. Perhaps a characterisation of a more complex nature would be more interesting. I must admit, though, that Ursulla provided some welcome 'dramatic' relief when the tension got too much in the air. Instead, they subsituted tension of another kind. As a 15 year-old schoolboy watching the film, I was tense with anticipation speculating if Ursulla's towel would slip in the hotel scene!

Alas, in the British cut, it did not!

Dear AllenTC2,

I suppose that you are correct. However, very few film-makers who are commisioned to remake a film resist the temptation to tinker with it.

With 'The Blue Max', I have not resisted and have improved it with to-day's audience in mind.

I believe that all the stories are in the past. Today, most movies are are bogged down with revisionism, have one eye on the sequel, are platforms for tatty, shoddy merchandise and are launching platforms for games!

My re-envisioning of this movie precludes any possibility of any spin-offs with the exception of plastic kits and die-casts!

Now where's that Sopwith Camel and Dri-decker, I need to run through that stunt again!

" Action, roll 'em!"

"Cut!"

MoMo

[bsmith13]

Good points, MoMo.

I would like to see more period movies made without 21st Century sensibilites (or insensibilities, as the case may be) intruding into the script.

And if you will pardon the cross-genre reference, the Special Editions of the Star Wars movies along with the prequel trilogy is some of the most badly executed revisionism on the planet!