[Aircrafty]

Dukes of Hazzard combined WITH Bridges of Maddison County, now that would make anyone

[b24man]

I havn't seen the movie yet but will sometime this week...

On whether "Flags" will draw an interest in some new diecast, only if there is not any excisting aircraft from this battle already out. And even then it will be ifee.

Kyle

[parsig9]

Just finished FOF today and was not all that impressed. The war bond half of the film just didn't move me like I think Eastwood intended. Not sure if it was the acting or the 30+ minutes of the NA character trying to come to grips with if he was or wasn't a hero. I feel like the skipping between Iwo and homefront left the battle part of the story lacking. The explanation of who put what flag where and which time.....blah. I just didn't care. I feel like the film turned this monumental undertaking in to a boring story about the defense of some Norwegian forest(ala Last Lieutenant) and sold the battle short. It needed Speilberg and John Ford.

I can't imagine this having much impact on the market as there are only a few Corsairs and one B29 featured for a few seconds. We sure don't need more Corsairs. I would have enjoyed some footage of the airfield or a bit more story about its role etc...

Pearl Harbor had a greater impact.

[mikeb1958]

Originally Posted by SKUNKY

Oh, that's what it is!.I heard someone mention it but I thought they said it was called "Letters From Aunt Jemima", and I'm thinking "what the hell?".....I think I need a hearing aid....

Das shoe am good stuff their Skunky.....

[Ara1]

I didn't appreciate the book and I didn't appreciate the movie. To me, the book was boring and had some iffy facts (Goettge's patrol allegedly being betrayed by surrendering Japanese). I think Hollywood gets one chance per generation to get a battle movie right, and I'm afraid FOOF didn't hit home with me, neither did Pearl Harbor or the Bulge movie from the '60's.

What about a movie covering the decisions of the Iwo invasion timetable? I think there's a much more interesting story of MacArthur not moving on Iwo in July of '44 (eight months before the actual invasion), in leiu of getting into the Phillipines first. I think that^^ decision cost a ton of lives. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd like to see that story researched and presented.

But let me weigh in on the thread's topic.

Yes, Flags of Our Fathers will help a bit with increasing diecast interest. Anything that makes the public aware of these machines helps the diecast industry, and modeling in general. I think diecast is the future of modeling, where the object is to own and display a piece of history as opposed to collecting hundreds of unbuilt plastic kits. However, I fear there's only a very small percentage of the general population who even know diecast planes and tanks even exist.

But that's for another thread.

[jim]

I am not sure these films ever make much impact on the diecast market. I went to see Private Ryan because I heard that Ray and Mark Hannah were flying Mustangs in it. They were on screen for about 2 seconds!!!! However what I did see was a very very moving film that has stayed in my mind ever since. Again I dont see how it affected diecast sales at all.
Most people just go and see a film and thats it. I think you have to be keen on history to get into diecast or blown away by some display at an airshow that grabs your interest. IMHO thats what diecast is about.
After I had seen Ray Hannah mowing the grass at Duxford in his P40 I was smitten by the aircraft and started to look into the history of it. I now have Hmmmn lets see,,,,,,just a minute I am missing one here,,, ah yes 12 of them and I have not finished yet.

BTW I just thought I would stir up this post and see what movies you guys have seen lately?????? any good aviation type stuff please????

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by jim

I am not sure these films ever make much impact on the diecast market. I went to see Private Ryan because I heard that Ray and Mark Hannah were flying Mustangs in it. They were on screen for about 2 seconds!!!! However what I did see was a very very moving film that has stayed in my mind ever since. Again I dont see how it affected diecast sales at all.
Most people just go and see a film and thats it. I think you have to be keen on history to get into diecast or blown away by some display at an airshow that grabs your interest. IMHO thats what diecast is about.
After I had seen Ray Hannah mowing the grass at Duxford in his P40 I was smitten by the aircraft and started to look into the history of it. I now have Hmmmn lets see,,,,,,just a minute I am missing one here,,, ah yes 12 of them and I have not finished yet.

BTW I just thought I would stir up this post and see what movies you guys have seen lately?????? any good aviation type stuff please????

Jim, I think I mentioned it on the previous MH I forum but the movie Dark Blue World is excellent and looks at the experience of Czech fighter pilots flying in Britain during WWII (don't be put off by the Czech sub-titles early in the movie). The flying scenes are also excellent .

(I assume you've also seen The Tuskegee Airmen...?)

[SKUNKY]

Jim did ya ever see The Great Waldo Pepper?...I always thought it would have been cool to be a barnstormer "back in the day".... and since I look exactly like Robert Redford (in his younger days, natch) it enables me to live out my fantasy vicariously through this movie.....one of my fave aviation flicks (although I can't get "in" to bi-plane models rendered in diecast metal- with the exception of Stearmans)

[1250ships]

Originally Posted by Ara1

What about a movie covering the decisions of the Iwo invasion timetable? I think there's a much more interesting story of MacArthur not moving on Iwo in July of '44 (eight months before the actual invasion), in leiu of getting into the Phillipines first. I think that^^ decision cost a ton of lives. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd like to see that story researched and presented.

There is no way Iwo Jima could have been invaded in July of 1944. Remember the landing in the Marianas and the Battle of the Philippine Sea only happened in June 1944 with Saipan alone taking three week to take and Guam wasn't invaded until July 21st.

Without the Marianas serving as a B-29 base there is no need to take Iwo Jima. It doesn't cut any supply routes to Japan. It wasn't big enough to be the sole B-29 base and as such it can't replace the Marianas. The Philippines were far more important because taking them cut off the Japanese lines of communication to the East Indies. Without the resources from the East Indies (the entire reason for going to war in the first place) Japan was crippled.

The questionable invasion was Peleliu. Post war Nimitz admitted it should have been bypassed. Halsey had recommended the landings be canceled but Nimitz overruled him.

[jim]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Jim, I think I mentioned it on the previous MH I forum but the movie Dark Blue World is excellent and looks at the experience of Czech fighter pilots flying in Britain during WWII (don't be put off by the Czech sub-titles early in the movie). The flying scenes are also excellent .

(I assume you've also seen The Tuskegee Airmen...?)

Hi Cardinal, many thanks for the reply, I have seen Dark blue world about 10 times. It is a brilliant film. It has just about everything you could wish for in an aviation type film. I may be wrong but I think part of the filming was done at Duxford.
The Tuskegee Airmen is one of those type of films that should be shown in schools. Those men where something special. The film is excellent.
Now Skunky yes I have seen Waldo Pepper and its a hoot. Funny you should say you look like Redford, I have often been mistaken for Paul Newman!! Not the one in the films but the old guy that lives just down the road.

I really should get Sat TV but it is not cheap and would take some of my dwindling diecast money, (there seem to be lots of aviation stuff on there).