[roh_kudus]

I spotted the tandem seat Chinese livery Su-27 and the gray single seat Su-27 a couple days ago. Been awhile since my previous visit to the toy store.

I fell for the single seat Su-27 though( I already got GC's Su-27 and F-15A so I'm pretty much familiar with GC quality) but the canopy left a gap when shut which made it look silly. It was the only model available.

Now I'm tempted to get the tandem seat Su-27 but there were those two ugly pilots..... But the canopy shuts tight.

Any of you already got the tandem seat Su-27. Pls do a review on it. I'd like to know what's lacking and what is good about it.

It's sold at a little more than US$70.00 here in Jakarta. There was also the Berkut but I'm not interested in a prototype plane which is unlikely to be produced or enter service.

[Gort]

Originally Posted by roh_kudus

I spotted the tandem seat Chinese livery Su-27 and the gray single seat Su-27 a couple days ago. Been awhile since my previous visit to the toy store.

I fell for the single seat Su-27 though( I already got GC's Su-27 and F-15A so I'm pretty much familiar with GC quality) but the canopy left a gap when shut which made it look silly. It was the only model available.

Now I'm tempted to get the tandem seat Su-27 but there were those two ugly pilots..... But the canopy shuts tight.

Any of you already got the tandem seat Su-27. Pls do a review on it. I'd like to know what's lacking and what is good about it.

It's sold at a little more than US$70.00 here in Jakarta. There was also the Berkut but I'm not interested in a prototype plane which is unlikely to be produced or enter service.

I’ve got this one, roh—but I haven’t removed it from its box. From what I see through the window panel, it looks every bit as good as its Gaincorp stable mates. My only concern is the dark-grey camouflage. Compared to Witty Chinese Su-27s, it’s three shades too dark. Compared to the pics below, it’s positively black!!!





Still, it's a terrific looking model. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

[roh_kudus]

Thank you Gort. Thanks for the comment on the color. If I didn't have to buy the badminton racket ...and I'm still thinking over that Thanatos Saint Seiya figurine. What a beautiful death God . I'll start picking flower: racket, figurine, GC, racket, figurine, GC, racket, . . . .

If anyone willing to give a thorough review I would appreciate it

[b-huj]

What a coincidence, I just bought the model today and I must confess, at a more reasonable price than that of your Indonesian retailer, or American ones for that matter. The bad thing: there was only 1 copy to "choose" from, so it was a take it or leave it deal.

There was no big issue with the model, except maybe some spotty smudges on the radome and (I found out at home) the starboard side wingtip launcher was bent inwards, I pulled the thing strait with bare fingres, now aching as I type.

YES, pigmentation is a bit off, too dark for a Chinese PLAAF livery, and it is particularly shocking when sitting side by side my two other Witty birds...and by the way, the 3-digit third Witty PLAAF Flanker is out there too, and it is also a bit darker than the previous two, but for a very mysterious reason, they decided to go for yet another Guangzhou Military Region livery (the other 2 were)...
I am not very impressed by the Gaincorp "execution and QC" department, but as Gort puts it, it is just as good as any other Gaincorp release, so expect just that, good and bad.

I just wanted to point out that Gaincorp does not do any research as to accuracy, so the model does not really represent anything that exists in the real world, by this I mean there is a blatant mistake with the bort and serial number. The tail reads 30028, and near the radome, 28: if 30028 was the serial, then it should read 08 under the cockpit. PLAAF takes the third and last digit of the serial for their bort number (reversly, if 28 was the bort, then it should be 30208 on the tail, do you follow???). Witty at least made a reproduction of a Chinese Flanker that does exist (there are pictures of the real one on the internet), but I am not even sure that 30208 or 30028 exist as a Su-27UBK at all!!!

I would give this model a 10 out of 10 for originality (it is the ONLY diecast UB(K), but no more than 6 for model construction (decals, seams, ugly ordnance) and less than 5 for historical accuracy (darkness, bort number, does this bird really exist at all??). If you need to have anything with a Chinese livery, you have to get this, otherwise, I am not so sure.

[roh_kudus]

Thanks B-Huj.

I reserved the single seater Chinese gray Su-27. New mold who could resist? Don't know when it is coming though probably never or at least another year. The single seater is what I'm after in the first place. The two seater is nice to have but side by side the single seater is more gorgeous imo.

The Su-27UBK, the two seater is also the only model available at the store.
You lucky man. We pay imported stuffs a bit more expensive than the Americans.
And our pay slip is way less than the average Joe.

[b-huj]

The single seat? Gaincorp or the Witty I was talking about?
Gaincorp's tooling and finishing is a bit less appealing than Witty's, but Witty also made a huge mistake with the cockpit canopy. I do appreciate the Witty surface detail, including rivets and subtle recessed panels.
Besides the Su-27, I would stay away from other Gaincorp Sukhois because they're mostly overpriced and misrepresented airframes.

[roh_kudus]

Gaincorp single seater Su-27 B-Huj. New mold though...I think.

I'm aware of Gaincorp shortcomings. But I think their worst release is the F-22 raptor.

Yes I know about Witty. Their lines are awesome. They are no where to be found here in Indonesia. I'm also aware of the Witty's Su-27 canopy inaccuracies.

[b-huj]

yep, you know what you are collecting!
In the US, Witty is cheaper than Gaincorp, if that was the case in Hong Kong, I would go Witty in a split second, unless livery is unavailable or sold out. Mind you! Witty just sent out to the shops a 3-digit Guangzhou Military Region PLAAF Su-27, so you may want to consider that option too.
There are 2 Gaincorp PLAAF Su-27s that I know of, one was a Japanese market exclusive, very early model, bort-27 black, then there was a "J-11" using the same mold, bort-9, but with a stand and missing a missile between the engines. I have bort 27 but it is stashed in my old place. I also own 2 of their Su-34/Su-32FN, first bort 43 and 45 (with pilots, japanese market), and the dreadful Su-47. The F-22? I have that one too, but I really think it is a tie between this and the Su-47 (100% decals (no tampo printing AT ALL)?? "uncompressed" landing gear?? then you must get the version with a stand...)

[roh_kudus]

I went to the toy shop again yesterday and the GC's single seater Su-27 turned out to be of the old mold. That really put me off.

The Su-27UBK the tandem seater was upped again to almost US$90.00..US$87.00 to be exact . It was just US$72.00 last week

I now officially hate that store .

There were HM's Mig-21s and the silvery starfighter too. But tagged at US$45.00. I don't like the fiddly bits and the panel lines. And now they've made me hating the price tag too.

Were they trading or robbing people off their money?

[b-huj]

Originally Posted by roh_kudus

I went to the toy shop again yesterday and the GC's single seater Su-27 turned out to be of the old mold. That really put me off.

The Su-27UBK the tandem seater was upped again to almost US$90.00..US$87.00 to be exact . It was just US$72.00 last week

I now officially hate that store .

There were HM's Mig-21s and the silvery starfighter too. But tagged at US$45.00. I don't like the fiddly bits and the panel lines. And now they've made me hating the price tag too.

Were they trading or robbing people off their money?

It doesn't always work, but have you tried online? maybe it will be cheaper...doesn't hurt to try calculating the costs first before giving your credit card number. Of course, always stick to the big stores, the ones with some reputation. I purchased twice or thrice with flyingmule and it was smooth, although shipping these things back to Asia and paying for the shipping is not very "green" to me. I try to minimize my carbon footprint...but you cannot always find the model you want in the local shop right?!