[timbo]

Originally Posted by LzyBns

I have to agree that a Check tail would round out the set nicely. And we've see the captured Fw190 and Me109 ,how about captured P-40

http://www.pluth.net/captured/captur...ptured_p40.htm

And Jim here is a site for you, though you probably seen it..

http://hawksnest.1hwy.com/Links.html/

I see there's a B17 in that pic as well. Is there any information on the Japanese use of captured B17's anywhere?

[JETFAN]

skunky, As I mentioed earlier, Bob Baseler was a flamboyant type and as skipper, exercised his rights.

[SKUNKY]

More power to Bob then!!...

[jim]

Originally Posted by JETFAN

skunky, As I mentioed earlier, Bob Baseler was a flamboyant type and as skipper, exercised his rights.

After reading about him I think he exercised his lefts as well. What a guy!

[skysurfer808]

Originally Posted by timbo

I see there's a B17 in that pic as well. Is there any information on the Japanese use of captured B17's anywhere?

There's a story in Samurai about a B-17 that attempted to land at Saburu Sakai's airfield at where I believe I recall was at Bali. The B-17 landed, but an army machine gunner shot at the thing, at which point it roared back off the ground. The Japanese Naval Aviators were furious at the stupidity of the army gunner, and the result was a series of brawls between the pilots and soldiers there. The pilots of course won every fight, at which point the ground officers warned off their men with a warning about how Navy pilots were Samurai, and hence not to be messed with. Later another B-17 was captured, and the Japanese were able to examine it in detail, as well as test fly it. Saburu Sakai managed to get a ride in the thing, which he briefly describes later.

As for captured P-40s, those in the pic appear to be P-40Es, which probably meant they were captured in the Philippines. Most of these machines were likely in bad shape, and there is an account in the book Corregidor about how an army aviatior, Ed Erikson, from Buzz Wagner's 17th Pursuit was forced to fly a P-40 with Japanese escort back for examination. The thing barely flew, and Erikson bellied this thing in, barely escaping with his life thanks to the testimony of his Japanese escort, which confirmed the sad state of the aircraft. Other P-40s may have been captured in the Dutch East Indies. At any rate, the P-40s in the pics looked in pretty good shape, but spares problems would eventually ground them. Several Buffalo were also captured in Java, and these were used in Japanese Propaganda films as enemy aircraft.

Looking closely at that pic of captured aircraft, you can see the 3 P-40s, and an early model small tail B-17C/D (probably a C since I don't see cowl flaps on the thing). And in the background next to the Fort, you can see what appears to be a Buffalo. So that was probably a pic showing the trophies of Japan's recent conquests, and given that these machines all appear to be in working order, this ought to date the photo to sometime in mid 1942.

Skysurfer808

[landrocket]

Many of these ideas are great. I especially like the checker tail idea. But for the record, I really do like and enjoy the Black and red version they just did... Not sure why it is so unpopular, but that's what makes the world go round I suppose.

[jim]

Originally Posted by landrocket

Many of these ideas are great. I especially like the checker tail idea. But for the record, I really do like and enjoy the Black and red version they just did... Not sure why it is so unpopular, but that's what makes the world go round I suppose.

I have one on its way. I love out of the ordinary schemes.

[buckiav8r]

I guess my aversion to the "ugy red and black thing" comes from a couple of different directions:
- My main point of contention is my extreme disappointment with Corgi over not using the Merlin-engined mold that they had for the Bradley model. I wouldn't even have quibbled about it being a short-tailed 'F, where STUD was actually a long-tailed 'L. What did they do, lose the mold? I'm really not that big of nit-picker. Really, I'm not, but some things I just won't forgive. (Re. the Armour/Franklin ships.) I've purchased every other Corgi P-40 so far, but I won't buy that one. Dammit, it's the principle of the thing.
- My other, more minor beef is that STUD never did see action in that color scheme and was only a squadron hack at that point. She was likely a noble beast with a combat history, but I would have rather seen her in her action days. I still say they should have gone with Lighthouse Louie. Or perhaps Duchess of Durham IV, Lott-O, Trixie, Sawtooth...

Have your guys figured out that I like the 325th?

[jim]

Originally Posted by LzyBns

I have to agree that a Check tail would round out the set nicely. And we've see the captured Fw190 and Me109 ,how about captured P-40

http://www.pluth.net/captured/captur...ptured_p40.htm

And Jim here is a site for you, though you probably seen it..

http://hawksnest.1hwy.com/Links.html/

Some very interesting info there LzyBns. I have drooled over the photos and thank you for the link.

[Spinnaker]

Exactly the reasons I haven't purchased this one either! I normally buy anything MTO - this is the first one in 1:72 I'll be passing on.

Originally Posted by buckiav8r

I guess my aversion to the "ugy red and black thing" comes from a couple of different directions:
- My main point of contention is my extreme disappointment with Corgi over not using the Merlin-engined mold that they had for the Bradley model. I wouldn't even have quibbled about it being a short-tailed 'F, where STUD was actually a long-tailed 'L. What did they do, lose the mold? I'm really not that big of nit-picker. Really, I'm not, but some things I just won't forgive. (Re. the Armour/Franklin ships.) I've purchased every other Corgi P-40 so far, but I won't buy that one. Dammit, it's the principle of the thing.
- My other, more minor beef is that STUD never did see action in that color scheme and was only a squadron hack at that point. She was likely a noble beast with a combat history, but I would have rather seen her in her action days. I still say they should have gone with Lighthouse Louie. Or perhaps Duchess of Durham IV, Lott-O, Trixie, Sawtooth...

Have your guys figured out that I like the 325th?