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Old 07-26-2007, 10:33 AM   # 41 Quick Link (permalink)
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Re: whats next after the A-6

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um, wow, never mind...


it's late, and I might be making some kind of mistake, but I am calculating that the cylinder for the S-IVB, if made of half-inch thick ZAMAK-3, would weigh something like 131.6 pounds, not including fins or engine bells! That's 59.7 kg for our metric friends...

I'll redo the math tomorrow when I'm more rested, but that would be an obvious showstopper
 

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The A-7 Corsair II would be the next logical choice, but I think that the Navy's F-8 Crusader is the real prize. Who ever produces that one will have earned major stars in my book.
 

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Who ever produces that one will have earned major stars in my book.

Wouldn't those be "oak leaf clusters?"
 

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I'm all for someone making a F-8 Crusader. I cannot imagine that there are not at least six good schemes for the "Last Of The Gunfighters." Between it's service during the Cuban Missle Crisis, Vietnam and the French Navy, there should be plenty of good liveries that folks (Or at least me.) would gladly gooble up.
 

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I agree about the F-8. Cudo's for who'm ever FINALLY does it. It really was a great aircraft. I also agree that there are several combat flown....Pretty....liveries with the F-8

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Only 6 good schemes? I can list a lot more than that...

I just hope we get an F-8A/B/C/D/H/K/L. Almost every kit and model ever is the F-8E/J, even though many of the best schemes are on the C/D. The E/J has a unique nose and that screws up the entire forward fuselage for every other version. The E/J may be pretty common and have some neat schemes, but it doesn't outnumber every other variant combined. If you make an "F-8A/B" mold, you can mold just a few more pieces, stick them on, and have the C/D/H/K/L. Or just ignore the A/B, and do C/D/H/K. Then there'd be fewer, easier parts to do the differences for.

This is an F-8K:


Now technically, this is a museum F-8K wearing F-8C markings. But it's rare among museum planes, in that this plane actually wore those markings back when it was an F-8C. (As opposed to all those museum F-14 former test planes that wear fully Joll Rogers markings) But it's by far the best *color* pics of VF-111's GOOD markings. Their F-8E's had terrible markings. Plenty of good b&W pics from the F-8C/D era though. And F-8C vs F-8K is among the most subtle of visual differences.

And by F-8 standards, these are pretty bland, boring markings! I have to try to find GOOD pics of the really elaborate schemes. Might have to resort to decal artwork etc----quality photos from the F-8 50's and 60's are a lot harder to get than F-14 70's and 80's...
 

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So is it safe to assume that this is the last U.S. scheme?




You could do both the pale Grey and Sea Blue schemes for the French. I think that the Philippine AF used them too.

also....

You could do the NASA fly-by-wire test bed, or the super critical wing (thought not likely due to tooling)
 

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Only 6 good schemes? I can list a lot more than that...

I just hope we get an F-8A/B/C/D/H/K/L. Almost every kit and model ever is the F-8E/J, even though many of the best schemes are on the C/D. The E/J has a unique nose and that screws up the entire forward fuselage for every other version. The E/J may be pretty common and have some neat schemes, but it doesn't outnumber every other variant combined. If you make an "F-8A/B" mold, you can mold just a few more pieces, stick them on, and have the C/D/H/K/L. Or just ignore the A/B, and do C/D/H/K. Then there'd be fewer, easier parts to do the differences for.

This is an F-8K:


Now technically, this is a museum F-8K wearing F-8C markings. But it's rare among museum planes, in that this plane actually wore those markings back when it was an F-8C. (As opposed to all those museum F-14 former test planes that wear fully Joll Rogers markings) But it's by far the best *color* pics of VF-111's GOOD markings. Their F-8E's had terrible markings. Plenty of good b&W pics from the F-8C/D era though. And F-8C vs F-8K is among the most subtle of visual differences.

And by F-8 standards, these are pretty bland, boring markings! I have to try to find GOOD pics of the really elaborate schemes. Might have to resort to decal artwork etc----quality photos from the F-8 50's and 60's are a lot harder to get than F-14 70's and 80's...

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Also...

Here is a rather unique French scheme as well as a RF-8 Recon version.

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Re: whats next after the A-6

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Hey there.

I only mentioned six schemes since that seems to bethe break even point for diecast manufacturers. (At least according to several threads here on the Hanger.) If you cannot come up with six distinct schemes/variations then it is not worth doing.
 

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