[tripoli]

Great pics. I do have a question on one of the shots. I noticed on one fo the F-14's. the enging nozzle is larger and different than the other one on the same bird. To me, it looks like a refit of just one engine on one side. Is that the case or is it something else?

As for the CW replacement issue, I will pop up a thread in the next few days when CW has the replacement here.

[David Hingtgen]

Which picture? There are no visible engine variations for any particular Tomcat model. The A model is well-known for usually having one nozzle open and one closed when shutdown, but it rarely happens on B's and D's, and isn't in any of these pics that I can tell.

If you want to see 2 different nozzles on a plane, look at F-18A's and early C's.

[tripoli]

Here you go, it was on the weapons load thread:
http://www.themodelhangar.com/forum/...b6e6e6aaf5.jpg

Just caught my eye as someone else posted a thread somewhere of a model that had the same configuration. The housing looks different from one engine to the other. I don't know enough on these birds to say of its just the housing side to side or if this is something else.

[David Hingtgen]

Oh, in THAT thread. That's an F-14A, and that's how they usually look when just sitting----one nozzle open, one closed. A lot of "experts" say it ALWAYS happens like that and any model that doesn't show it is wrong, but it's just "usually" how they are shut down. (And supposed to be AFAIK---if they're both open or closed, the pilot didn't follow proper shutdown procedure)

B's and D's usually have the nozzles open, but sometimes one will be closed.

[firefighterpilot1]

Originally Posted by David Hingtgen

Which picture? There are no visible engine variations for any particular Tomcat model. The A model is well-known for usually having one nozzle open and one closed when shutdown, but it rarely happens on B's and D's, and isn't in any of these pics that I can tell.

If you want to see 2 different nozzles on a plane, look at F-18A's and early C's.

The nozzles from the B and D engines are very distinct from each those of the A. When the B/D nozzles are closed it becomes a little harder to tell but when in the neutral position, they are very distinct.



A model GE TF-30

vs.

B/D Model F110-GE-400

[David Hingtgen]

I am WELL aware of how to tell A vs B/D engines (and shrouds, and fairings). The discussion was whether any F-14 type had two different looking engines. All F-14A engines look like all other F-14A engines, all F-14B engines look like all other F-14B engines. As opposed to other planes, some of which do have engine variations within the same group, and you can see two different engines installed at the same time. The original question was:

"To me, it looks like a refit of just one engine on one side. Is that the case or is it something else?" (in reference to a photo of an F-14A that looked especially different)

The answer was that no particular model of F-14 has a visible engine variation, and that it was just the angle of the photo and the different nozzle positions. All A's have engines that look identical, all B's have the same engines, etc.

[firefighterpilot1]

ok, just making sure

I have never seen any aircraft with two different engines. Do you have any pictures?

[David Hingtgen]

I don't think there's any online that I know of, but check F-18 pics around 1989/1990----you'll find LOTS with one of each nozzle type. Also, F-15's around 1979---often one engine feathered, one not.