[MoMo]

djjeffhall Member



Location: Sierra Madre, CA
Join Date: August 31, 2006
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Dear djjeffhall,

I take your point. I would not wish to hold any company as a hostage to fortune, however good or bad they were. They have a living to make and they are taking the risk of creating new lines for our collecting passions.

The point is, and this is quite clear from most members who have commented, that production runs of 500 don't make sense unless prices are sky-high or we'll see 500 of a model then 500 more with a slight variation, or they will appear in another guise/logo/badge/promotion,etc.

I guess that after all the interest which contributers to the forum have generated, everyone is afraid that, as LegioLXXll puts it, wargammers will vacume all available models into their maw as soon as they appear. They do like to equip whole army units at a time. Especially if a model has not been available in any form prior to its release date.

There is a case in point here. Hanomag 251s have attracted wargammers as they have appeared from Dragon's stable. There is a practical reason for this. They are notoriously fiddly to deal with when you are building groups of them. They cost only a few dollars more for a fully-built model compared to the Pro-Model kit. Also, you need to be pretty good with the old air-brush to compete with Dragon's army of painters and renderers.

The same case, of course, can be made for all Dragon and Fov products, as well as Admiral's intended releases.

Less availability means less to go round guys, and that puts a dent in all our carefully scheduled buying plans!

MoMo

[Legio LXXII]

With limiting to 500, hopefully you will not have some dealers hoarding their stock so they can up the price once they're sold out every where else like what happened with King & Country last year. There were a couple dealers that didn't sell a single limited edition set (limited to 500 or 1000 sets worldwide) with the intention of waiting for them to be sold out everywhere else so they could then sell them for several times the retail price. Those dealers were found out and I don't think they sell King & Country any more.

[tankguy]

I'm guessing they mean 500 per paint scheme. 500 gray, 500 DAK tan, 500 whitewash, 500 3-tone normandy, 500 2-tone Kursk, etc. If it's a big seller, they can keep that going ad nauseum.

Of course, that's just a guess....

[ZS-VAN]

I think the numbers are very limited. I don't normally puchase more than one of anything but arty I think is a bit different. I assume that this means more runs in different liveries?? I hope!

[ZS-VAN]

Originally Posted by tankguy

I'm guessing they mean 500 per paint scheme. 500 gray, 500 DAK tan, 500 whitewash, 500 3-tone normandy, 500 2-tone Kursk, etc. If it's a big seller, they can keep that going ad nauseum.

Of course, that's just a guess....

I'm hoping you're right, that's exactly my thinking!

[panzercommander]

I like the idea but to pull it off I think they would have to be responsible for the majority of the retail operations. That is ok since I have bought directly from the Admiral website before without problem.

[Berkut76]

Originally Posted by panzercommander

I like the idea but to pull it off I think they would have to be responsible for the majority of the retail operations. That is ok since I have bought directly from the Admiral website before without problem.

Actually, the retail side of Admiral's operations (i.e buying directly from the website) is handled by JJsCloset.com aka theToyHq with which I've had both positive and negative experiences.

Truthfully, I wouldn't mind Admiral expanding their dealer network.

Regards,

Sergey

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Berkut76

Truthfully, I wouldn't mind Admiral expanding their dealer network.

I agree with Sergey on this - as I've said before, I wish that The Flying Mule would start stocking their 1/72 armour and artillery range (when available).

[ZS-VAN]

Originally Posted by Berkut76

Actually, the retail side of Admiral's operations (i.e buying directly from the website) is handled by JJsCloset.com aka theToyHq with which I've had both positive and negative experiences.

Truthfully, I wouldn't mind Admiral expanding their dealer network.

Regards,

Sergey

Thanks for the guide to their retail outlet Sergey. I have some trouble with their website. Never seem to get where they have the guns. (88 & Pak40)